Lales.Charles Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 Dear Unigine team, Would it be possible to get pieces of advise regarding HP desktop configuration? Our company HW provider is HP and we are currently defining new desktop references for Unigine, VR as mutli-monitor output mode. HP G4 customisable workstations: Z4 https://store.hp.com/us/en/pdp/hp-z4-g4-workstation-customizable-1jp11av-1 Z6 https://store.hp.com/us/en/pdp/hp-z6-g4-workstation-customizable-z3y91av-1 Z8 https://store.hp.com/us/en/pdp/hp-z8-g4-workstation-customizable-z3z16av-1 With among given differences: The number and types of processors (Z4: one CPU only, Z6 and Z8: up to 2 CPUs, but are Xeon only) The possible memory (Z4: 128GB (Core CPU), 256GB (Xeon CPU), Z6: 384GB, Z8: 3TB) We are not looking for the most powerful configuration but more for the best compromise, to make this new reference budget friendly (3-5K€) for any departments. Since CATIA is used to deal with DMU, we first checked config with Quadro RTX 5000 (16 GB GDDR6). But... if such need is internally not confirmed, than we plan more GeForce RTX 2080 Ti e.g. from ZOTAChttps://www.zotac.com/us/product/graphics_card/GeForce-RTX-2080Ti/all So.. would you recommend: 1 or 2 CPUs? One CPU in particular? Min memory? 1 or 2 GC? One GC (from ZOTAC) in particular? Clearly GeForce over Quadro? Any other criteria we should take into account? Thanks in advance! Sorry if it's not right forum section.. Kind regards, Charles 1 Link to comment
morbid Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 Hello Charles, Thanks for the details, I think I can start straight with your questions. Q: 1 or 2 CPUs? A: Go for one. Please note, that it worth choosing a CPU with better performance for 1 thread than a multicore monster. We did a number optimizations for multithreaded resources loading in runtime, but a faster core is still preferable. Q: One CPU in particular? A: Still no need to go for more than one CPU if we're talking about Unigine-based application performance Q: Min memory? A: If you start with 128Gb RAM that'll be more than enough. Actually, 32gb is already okay for the development and scene building. Pay attention to the RAM speed. Faster RAM benefits to the data streaming. Q: 1 or 2 GC? A: 1 GPU is preferable. SLI doesn't work with TAA and VR and some post-effects. Q: One GC (from ZOTAC) in particular? A: Well, the vendor is up to you. Q: Clearly GeForce over Quadro? A: Yes, there's no need in Quadro GPU. GeForce RTX 2080 Ti would be perfect. Q: Any other criteria we should take into account? A: SSD will give you a good boost almost everywhere: in Editor and in the final build. Fast data transferring is just great! Thank you! How to submit a good bug report --- FTP server for test scenes and user uploads: ftp://files.unigine.com user: upload password: 6xYkd6vLYWjpW6SN Link to comment
Lales.Charles Posted April 11, 2019 Author Share Posted April 11, 2019 Hi, Thanks for feedback. Still more precision on 2 questions in fact.. Q: One CPU in particular? I mean, from available list bellow for G4 Z4, ordered by ascending additional cost, which one could be suitable? Would the first Core i7-9800X be a fine compromise? Xeon W-2104 (3.2 GHz, 8.25 MB cache, 4 core) Included in price Xeon W-2123 (3.6 GHz, up to 3.9 GHz w/Turbo Boost, 8.25 MB cache, 4 core) +$85.00 Xeon W-2125 (4 GHz, up to 4.5 GHz w/Turbo Boost, 8.25 MB cache, 4 core) +$385.00 Core i7-9800X (3.8 GHz, up to 4.4 GHz w/Turbo Boost, 16.5 MB cache, 2666 MHz, 8 core, 165W) +$685.00 Xeon W-2133 (3.6 GHz, up to 3.9 GHz w/Turbo Boost, 8.25 MB cache, 6 core) +$735.00 Xeon W-2135 (3.7 GHz, up to 4.5 GHz w/Turbo Boost, 8.25 MB cache, 6 core) +$1175.00 Core i9-9820X (3.3 GHz, up to 4.1 GHz w/Turbo Boost, 16.5 MB cache, 2666 MHz, 10 core, 165W) +$1265.00 Core i9-7900X (3.3 GHz, up to 4.3 GHz w/Turbo Boost, 13.75 MB cache, 10 core) +$1485.00 Xeon W-2145 (3.7 GHz, up to 4.5 GHz w/Turbo Boost, 8.25 MB cache, 8 core) +$1735.00 Core i9-9920X (3.5 GHz, up to 4.4 GHz w/Turbo Boost, 19.25 MB cache, 2666 MHz, 12 core, 165W) +$1885.00 Core i9-7920X (2.9 GHz, up to 4.3 GHz w/Turbo Boost, 16.5 MB cache, 12 core) +$1885.00 Core i9-7940X (3.1 GHz, up to 4.3 GHz w/Turbo Boost, 19.25 MB cache, 14 core) +$2285.00 Core i9-7960X (2.8 GHz, up to 4.2 GHz w/Turbo Boost, 22 MB cache, 16 core) +$2885.00 Xeon W-2155 (3.3 GHz, up to 4.5 GHz w/Turbo Boost, 13.75 MB cache, 10 core) +$2785.00 Xeon W-2175 (2.5 GHz, up to 4.3 GHz, w/Turbo Boost, 19 MB, 14 core) +$3425.00 Core i9-9980XE (3.0 GHz, up to 4.4 GHz w/Turbo Boost, 24.75 MB cache, 2666 MHz, 12 core, 165W) +$3485.00 Core i9-7980XE Extreme Edition (2.6 GHz, up to 4.2 GHz w/Turbo Boost, 24.75 MB cache, 18 core) +$3485.00 Xeon W-2195 (2.3 GHz, up to 4.3 GHz w/Turbo Boost, 24.75 MB cache, 18 core) +$5335.00 Q: One GC (from ZOTAC) in particular? I mean, all GeForce RTX 2080 Ti listed bellow are 4352 Cores / 11GB GDDR6 / 14.0 Gbps, ordered by boost. Up to you, is there a real diff between first (1545 MHz) and last (1815 MHz) or can we pick whatever come in this category..? Would you have any specific recommendation? e.g. based on cooling system we would take first Triple Fan (boost 1605 MHz).. GeForce RTX 2080 Ti Blower Boost: 1545 MHz GeForce RTX 2080 Ti Twin Fan Boost: 1545 MHz GeForce RTX 2080 Ti ArcticStorm Boost: 1575 MHz GeForce RTX 2080 Ti Triple Fan Boost: 1605 MHz GeForce RTX 2080 Ti AMP Boost: 1665 MHz GeForce RTX 2080 Ti AMP MAXX Boost: 1665 MHz GeForce RTX 2080 Ti AMP Extreme Core Boost: 1755 MHz GeForce RTX 2080 Ti AMP Extreme Boost: 1815 MHz Sorry to ask you such precision level, but you're certainly more skilled on such techno, and for us it will define a new reference in catalog for colleagues who will start using Unigine.. Kind regards, Charles Link to comment
morbid Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 12 minutes ago, Lales.Charles said: Would the first Core i7-9800X be a fine compromise? It'll be just fine. No need to go for a Xeon CPU, we're looking for a better combination of frequency and number of cores. By the way, Core i9-9820X is also a great option. By "multicore monster" I meant server processors that sacrifice frequency for the number of cores, they're just not the optimal for intense 3d applications. 8 cores are good, 10 - even better, but there's no need in 18 cores with hyperthreading if we're speaking about UNIGINE-based IG. 19 minutes ago, Lales.Charles said: Up to you, is there a real diff between first (1545 MHz) and last (1815 MHz) or can we pick whatever come in this category..? Higher core clock means a lot. RTX 2080 Ti AMP @ 1815 MHz will give you performance boost compared to the stock version @ 1545 MHz. You can use this as a reference: https://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/zotac_gaming_geforce_rtx_2080_ti_amp_extreme_review,19.html. Hope this helps you to choose. How to submit a good bug report --- FTP server for test scenes and user uploads: ftp://files.unigine.com user: upload password: 6xYkd6vLYWjpW6SN Link to comment
Lales.Charles Posted April 11, 2019 Author Share Posted April 11, 2019 Excellent, thanks a lot! Link to comment
morbid Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 Just check the performance of these factory overclocked GPUs. The 300Mhz difference looks like a lot, but it does not boost performance up to the sky. Triple Fan version that runs @ 1605 MHz also quite good. How to submit a good bug report --- FTP server for test scenes and user uploads: ftp://files.unigine.com user: upload password: 6xYkd6vLYWjpW6SN Link to comment
benoit.andrieu Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 For single-threaded benchmarks, you can look up in https://www.cpubenchmark.net/singleThread.html Xeon W-2125 seems great but only 4 cores For overall benchmarks, look at https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_list.php 9980XE, 7960X, 9920X and 9820X have the best performance and have good single-thread scores. I would go for 9920X but HP is taking too much for it. Link to comment
Lales.Charles Posted April 11, 2019 Author Share Posted April 11, 2019 Thanks guys ;) Link to comment
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